since they have fingered you as a mod, you should have a very interesting tale to tell; please do!.
Misguided, I grew up and lived near that Hwy and remember when that was happening but did not know it was the son of a JW who was doing it. Can you pm me his name, I probably know him and his family.
If your father in law is from Surrey, I probably know who he is too.
in my case it was my best freind in the cong who decided to encourage me to answer up at the wt by... refusing to talk to me afterwards if i hadn't answered up!
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Oh, I'm fine ambersun, thanks for asking, but still not that close to my father 30 years later. Go figure!
in my last year of university i wrote a paper called traumatic child sexual abuse, psychological death and the reduction in the belief in the power of god.
it was a term paper for a class on death and dying for a religion course i took.
not exactly what the prof expected but he agreed it made some excellent points.
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Since about 90% of people do believe in God, it was a fair assumption to make. She was also asking them how their experience affected their belief in God, thereby giving them a chance to open up and say if they no longer believed in God because of what happened to them.
There isn't one word in Lady Lee's article or her post that tells anybody how to feel about anything. It simply documents what many victims say they were feeling. You are jumping to conclusions.
i remember growing up and hearing all sorts of stories about demonic activity from people.
some would be experiences that people had going door to door and visiting a "witch" or "warlock".
some would inadvertently go to a fortune tellers door and have a demonic experience.. i was always facinated by all the stories.
There is a type of sleep disorder called "sleep terrors" and is characterized by the body being paralyzed and unable to move (which is normal in sleep) before the rest of the brain is in full deep sleep (which is not normal). In a small percentage of the people with this disorder they also have terrifying hallucinations like they are dreaming, but they are still awake and aware. It is sort of the opposite of sleep-walking.
This phenomenon occurs in all countries and depending on the cultural beliefs is associated with mythical demons, dragons, astral foxes, aliens etc.
It tends to occur in families. It usually occurs when the sufferer is sleeping on their back, and is under a lot of emotional stress. (like from being disfellowshipped or being told terrifying demon stories by your parents when young!)
I believe this phenomenon is responsible for a lot of so-called demon experiences. My mother has had this experience, so have I and so has my brother. At the time, I did believe it was demons attacking me as this is what I had been taught. The last time it happened is when I left the JW's for good. I had nightmares that demons were attacking me, and they seemed very real, like I was truly awake. The difference that time was that I had already stopped believing in demons. I knew this was just the brainwashing and JW conditioning playing tricks on my mind because I was leaving and it was triggering all the old instilled fears. I faced up to it and it has never happened since.
i'm hoping to get clarity on a few points, but please, don't think i'm too lazy to do my own research: i do not have a bible in my house.. or the koran.
or the book of mormon.
or a copy of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (unfortunately ).
Anywhere there is some scripture somewhere that says the quote I gave and that's what they base the name on. Help me out here OTWO. You used to be an elder or something didn't ya?
i'm hoping to get clarity on a few points, but please, don't think i'm too lazy to do my own research: i do not have a bible in my house.. or the koran.
or the book of mormon.
or a copy of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (unfortunately ).
lol. It's been six freakin years! Massive fail. Maybe I should go back to remedial ministry school?
in my case it was my best freind in the cong who decided to encourage me to answer up at the wt by... refusing to talk to me afterwards if i hadn't answered up!
!.
I do remember my father once beating me black and blue with a metal belt buckle to encourage me not to talk to boys and stay chaste for Jehovah.
It did encourage me but not in the way he thought it would. It encouraged me to sleep with the first older man I could find in the hopes that he would ask me to move in with him and rescue me from the fucking nut house!
Then they further encouraged me by disfellowshipping me so I would repent and come back to Jehovah. That actually worked, sadly enough. But not permanently.
Hope my experience has been encouraging to you all.
i'm hoping to get clarity on a few points, but please, don't think i'm too lazy to do my own research: i do not have a bible in my house.. or the koran.
or the book of mormon.
or a copy of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (unfortunately ).
I think Psalms 83:18 says, "You are my witnesses, says Jehovah, my servant even whom I have chosen" and that's where they get that phrase from.
If I got that quote wrong, well, it has been about six years!
thought i'd start a new topic on my experience.................... just got back from the above assembly.......... here is my take on my first and last assembly.
9:40 song and prayer - half the people were still in the toilet...and no one was singing, i didn't have a song book (i am worldy you see!!
) so i just stood and stared at the odd looking fella on the stage miming, rather than singing!.
You beat me to it JamieBowers. I noticed that right away too.
They can't even keep their stories straight and keep from contradicting themselves from one talk to the next!
in my last year of university i wrote a paper called traumatic child sexual abuse, psychological death and the reduction in the belief in the power of god.
it was a term paper for a class on death and dying for a religion course i took.
not exactly what the prof expected but he agreed it made some excellent points.
Lady Lee, I think you have drawn a fascinating connection. I never really thought about it too much, but grew up thinking my family never loved me and after never in my life ever getting anything I ever prayed for (and I don't mean material things), sometime in my 30's I came to believe God didn't care about me either. It was probably earlier than that really, but was probably cemented in my 30's. I do remember praying to Satan once for some powers as a teen, since praying to God didn't seem to be working out for me too well. lol. He didn't answer me either. Good thing, or I would have been terrified. It really is about that sense of powerlessness and needing desperately to be rescued by someone... anyone!
Posey, I understand your point but I think you are missing the big picture. Sexual abuse affects every single aspect of your life and relationships in some way. Victims are often so shut down emotionally that they are unaware of the ways they are affected until someones asks the right questions. Sometimes its difficult for them to come to conclusions about anything because any conclusions they were to draw in life were beaten into them.
Bringing something into awareness, no matter what it is, no matter how painful or personal it is the first step to healing. Believe me, our feelings about God one way or the other, which is something external and somewhat remote after all, are nowhere as painful as our feelings of pain about our bodies or families which are much more immediate. It is just peeling another layer of the onion.
